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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     10/31/2003 12:56 pm  
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Homosexual Parenting: Placing Children at Risk 

     
  
  
 
 
  
 
 
Summary: 
 A number of studies in recent years have purported to show that children raised in gay and lesbian households fare no worse than those reared in traditional families. Yet much of that research fails to meet acceptable standards for psychological research by openly lesbian researchers who sometimes conduct research with an interest in portraying homosexual parenting in a positive light. The deficiencies of studies on homosexual parenting include reliance upon an inadequate sample size, lack of random sampling, lack of anonymity of research participants, and self-presentation bias.  
  
     
Issue No.: 238
by: Tim Dailey

A number of studies in recent years have purported to show that children raised in gay and lesbian households fare no worse than those reared in traditional families. Yet much of that research fails to meet acceptable standards for psychological research; it is compromised by methodological flaws and driven by political agendas instead of an objective search for truth. In addition, openly lesbian researchers sometimes conduct research with an interest in portraying homosexual parenting in a positive light. The deficiencies of studies on homosexual parenting include reliance upon an inadequate sample size, lack of random sampling, lack of anonymity of research participants, and self-presentation bias.

The presence of methodological defects--a mark of substandard research--would be cause for rejection of research conducted in virtually any other subject area. The overlooking of such deficiencies in research papers on homosexual failures can be attributed to the "politically correct" determination within those in the social science professions to "prove" that homosexual households are no different than traditional families.

 

 
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/31/2003 1:13 pm  
To:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)    (2 of 22)  
 
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Hi Amy,

 

I have a B.A. in Economics and was going to go into business  investing, before I decided to go into the Ministry.

 

At college one of the really funny things that I learned is how to lie with numbers in various statistics classes and the often used quote by the professor and the whole class was there are two kinds of liars; Damn Liars and Statisticians.

 

I would no more believe someones special report or study than I would believe in the Easter Bunny.

 

God Bless You,
David



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  From:  8320john1   10/31/2003 1:21 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (3 of 22)  
 
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Common "born again" sense tells us that parenting by sexual perverts HAS to be a danger to children. 
 
  
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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     10/31/2003 1:32 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (4 of 22)  
 
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Not everyone is so discerning as you, David.  :)    Often, we are bombarded with statements such as:  'but this study said, ' or 'that study shows...' as 'evidence' that certain sins are 'ok' or even 'genetic,' etc.  

I saw 'study' results yesterday on 'CNN,' I believe.  They said that doctors are the worst drivers, second only to students.   How they came to that conclusion, is beyond me, and the results were worthless as far as I'm concerned.  They are the sort of thing to get the 'masses' riled or angry, IMO.  Next we will see legislation to keep doctors off the streets!  lol.  

What a complete waste of time [and MONEY!] for these people to engage in false research and trying to make some sort of importance out of their 'findings.'   

 
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/31/2003 1:35 pm  
To:  8320john1   (5 of 22)  
 
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Yeah,

 

The dark and Predator side of the Homosexual movement that they just dont want Exposed.

 

God Bless You,
David



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  From:  glory10700    10/31/2003 8:55 pm  
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That says it all.



Hebrews 4: 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account. 
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-1 9:08 am  
To:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)    (7 of 22)  
 
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Here is another Example of using some pretend poll for propaganda purposes in order to sway public opinion to the views of the instigator, and it works as people will see this and conclude that it is popular and common knowledge that Israel is an obstacle to world peace even though nothing could be further from the truth and in fact Israel is probably the most peaceful nation in the world and happens to be surrounded by a den of nations intent on their destruction.


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Nov. 1, 2003
EU poll: Israel greatest threat to world peace
By www.JPOST.COM STAFF
 
 Fifty-nine percent of Europeans say that Israel is a larger threat to world peace than North Korea, Iran or Afghanistan, according to a European Commission survey of approximately 7,500 Europeans, scheduled to be made public on Monday. 

Given a list of 15 countries, including Iran and North Korea, Israel was listed as the greatest threat to world peace, the Spanish daily El Pais reported. 

The EU has denied allegations that it suppressed the results of the survey. 

"This poll is an indication that Europeans have bought in, 'hook, line and sinker', to the vilification and demonization campaign directed against the State of Israel and her supporters by European leaders and media," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the Wiesenthal Center's founder and dean. 

"If the results of this survey are as reported, then Israel should draw the only conclusion possible - that the European Union and its members should play no role in any future peace process," Hier said. 

Hier added that the poll only shows that "antisemitism is deeply embedded within European society, more then any other period since the end of WWII."




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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     Nov-1 1:07 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (8 of 22)  
 
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Wow, David.   It is purely evil what some will do to justify their hatred of others.

 

 
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  From:  Liesy (CRYSR)    Nov-3 9:21 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (9 of 22)  
 
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Is LOVE really so evil? so Predatory? so dark? 
When two people love each other, it is the best environment for children to be raised in wether they are the same sex or not. You obviously do not know any gay parents, or you would not say the things you do. 

This saddens me so very much, more than I can even express in simple words. It breaks my heart to see someone speaking His word, be so closed minded and hateful towards people who just want nothing but to love. 

If you think that God punishes people for their sexuality, you are sadly mistaken. Regardless of what the Bible says. 

I'm well aware of the fact that I am likely one of the only people here on this board that believes this. I am not posting this to catch a load of spam, or anything else. I'm expressing the sadness in my heart. That's all. 

*wanders off to cry a little*
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-3 10:24 am  
To:  Liesy (CRYSR)    (10 of 22)  
 
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Unfortunatlly Homosexual activity is very sick and evil.

 

You can pretend that its not but it is only pretend.

 

Homosexuality has Nothing to do with Love and Everything to do with Sin and Selfishness.

And yes they are Predators.

 

And I would like to add that the group of people that just ordained the homosexual and his partner IS THE MOST EVIL THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO THE CHURCH.

 

And why are you crying, because a sin is called a sin? Very Strange!

 

God Bless You,

David



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  From:  Liesy (CRYSR)    Nov-3 11:25 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (11 of 22)  
 
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I do not cry because a sin is called a sin. I am crying because you are one who Serves God, but can not see past bigotry to see that love is love, no matter what form it comes in. 
Homosexuality is not evil, nor predatory. I can not get into a debate as to why, because a closed mind is one that can not be reasoned with. 

I pray for you, David, Servant of God. That He shines His Light, and Love upon you so that you see the truth. I pray that He will intervene on your behalf, and allow you the joy of being entirely open and accepting so you may be a True Servant of Himself.
 
  
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  From:  8320john1   Nov-3 11:27 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (12 of 22)  
 
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Amen!! 
  
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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     Nov-4 12:00 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (13 of 22)  
 
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sinners who do not wish to be bothered with sin, certainly do have reason to 'cry.'

 
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-7 4:59 am  
To:  mikael (taomikael)    (15 of 22)  
 
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Your post was deleted for containing a derogatory comment to another poster.

 

You can repost without the comment.

 

Thank you,

David



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  From:  mikael (taomikael)    Nov-7 9:21 am  
To:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)    (16 of 22)  
 
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Ms. M38, 
<<"The presence of methodological defects--a mark of substandard research--would be cause for rejection of research conducted in virtually any other subject area. The overlooking of such deficiencies in research papers on homosexual failures can be attributed to the "politically correct" determination within those in the social science professions to "prove" that homosexual households are no different than traditional families.">> 

This is patently false. 

As has been well-proven in the case of "Dr." Paul Cameron, who was publicly expelled from both his national and state professional organizations and excoriated by a federal judge for deliberate falsification and misrepresentation of his "data," -- but who was nonetheless praised by such groups as Dobson's Focus on the Family until the true facts became too widely known, methodological defects do not count at all with the religious right wing and their homophobic program if the data supports their cause. It's only when the studied clearly *disprove* their cant that they start yawping about "defects." 

None of the authors of the various studies that show that there is no difference in parenting between gay and straight households have ever been condemned by their peers for methodological flaws or misrepresentation. 

--mikael
 
  
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  From:  Zboy900   Nov-7 9:53 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (17 of 22)  
 
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<<Homosexuality has Nothing to do with Love and Everything to do with Sin and Selfishness. 
And yes they are Predators.>> 

Similar to predators such as "Christian" clergy who molest young children?? 

I find it amazing that so called "christians" can call homosexuality evil and predatory when you folks won't even admit that your own clergy have sick minds..... 





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  From:  8320john1   Nov-7 10:33 am  
To:  Zboy900   (18 of 22)  
 
  730.18 in reply to 730.17  
 
When true Christian preachers are discovered, they are quickly rooted out of the ministry...and yes, they as perverted and sick as the committed homosexual. Both are in need of deliverance and repentance. 
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-7 11:49 am  
To:  Zboy900   (19 of 22)  
 
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Homosexuality is inconsistent with Christianity.

 

I totally disagree with any child being molested whether it is by a teacher, a neighbor and especially a trusted Christian leader.

 

You cant seriously think that everyone in a paid Christian position is a Christian especially after the Bibles repeated admonitions to watch out for false leaders posing as Christians whos actions will instead equal destruction.

 

God Bless You,
David



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   From:  Zboy900   Nov-7 2:20 pm  
To:  8320john1   (20 of 22)  
 
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Homosexuality isn't the same as being a pedophile. I know gay people, and they are just as normal as anyone else. 
And it wasn't always the case that preachers were quickly rooted out of the ministry. Luckliy, there is far less tolerance for this kind of behavior these days... 

 
  
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   From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-7 2:34 pm  
To:  Zboy900   (22 of 22)  
 
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Topic closed

 

Looks like Zboy got the last word in on this topic.

 

It is Never my intention and never will be to have a long list of argumentative posting so as soon as the topic descends from informational posting into strife it will be closed.

 

 

God Bless You,
David



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